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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 29 Apr 93       Volume 11 : Issue 90

Today's Topics:

      [*] DataSnd 0.8 (this one works!)
      [*] Dragwindow 2.3
      [*] Educational Software for disabled children (summary)
      [*] Educational Software for Medical studies (summary)
      [*] game/hangman-10-whw.hqx
      [*] Mac & IBM Compare-Version 1.7.8
      [*] MacMandelMovieMaker v1.0
      [*] Matt Paint 1.9.2
      [*] MerryXMas Hypercard Virus Vaccine
      [*] Mionitor.hqx - System 7 Monitoring Tool
      [*] NSF Forms for Word/Excel updated
      [*] Suppl. Gestalt Selectors List 1.5
      [*] System 7 Pack! 3.4.1
      [*] Talker2.0.sit
      [*] The Gzip program
      [*] Update for empire master rule set "Fantastic" now 1.1
      (A) Error Codes
      1024x800 on NEC 5FG
      68040 does not neccessarily have an FPU (C)
      99 bottles
      [Q] simple SLIP
      Abaton InterFAX Modem Upgrade Offer
      A comment about posting answers to the digest.
      After Dark - the one module option (A)
      After Dark updater - not latest version
      An X-windows on mac over phone lines interface
      Apple Calvary
      Application Use Logger?
      Backup program information available
      BinHex 4.0 (A)
      C++ for the Mac File /INFO-MAC/UTIL/FILE-TYPER-40.HQX is not retrievable
      Class/Faculty scheduling programs, maybe?
      Clip art and/or eps
      Deskpict (R)
      DOS .prn files on a Mac Printer [Q]
      emailaddress of MacDTS ??
      Ethernett Questions (A)
      eudora scripts
      FTF File Utility [request]
      ftp for people without ftp
      GroupWare Experience
      Help with catalogging  ICONs needed (Q)
      Hi Speed Fax modem CARD?
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #89 (2 msgs)
      Installing A/UX on SE/30 (Q)
      launching invisible apps (A)
      LC/Daystar vs LCIII (C)
      LocalTalk and Ethernet simultaneously (A) (2 msgs)
      looking for project ideas... what would you like to see implemented?
      MacPassword program?
      MacSurf 3
      Mac Week E mail address
      Mathematica
      mcvert-20
      notecards, me too
      notecards again
      Now Compress
      OzTeX and PostScript (Q)
      Performa 450 vs. LCIII (summary)
      Power Book MIDI problems
      Print to LaserWriter from SPARC
      Programming Languages
      Prograph
      Prometheus 14.4/14.4 Ultima Home Office (Q)
      Quadra 700 and ethernet card (A)
      Room Scheduler (Q)
      SAM Virus Defs. Problem (Q)
      Society for the Prevention of Microsoft
      Stuffit Lite vs. Compactor Pro -- FAQ?
      System error 15 - again
      The Trincoll Journal- A Macintosh Electronic Publication
      TrueType INIT (C)
      What kind of machine is Sumex-Aim?
      Where to fine more Quicktime movies? (Q)
      Why not a Performa?
      you NEED 32bit addressing for over 8Megs

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 11:05:22 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Steven Seeger)
Subject: [*] DataSnd 0.8 (this one works!)

Here we go, mon. The working version. Check it out and tell me if it works
good, ok?

Thanks,
Steve

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/program/datasnd-08.hqx; 72K]

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 11:20:47 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Stefan Van Dessel)
Subject: [*] Dragwindow 2.3

The DragWindow II system extension

Version 2.3, April 1993

With DragWindow II installed, whenever you click on the title bar of a
window to drag it to a new position, you will not see the familiar outline
of the window follow your cursor, but you will be dragging around the full
window instead. This will happen in all but a very few applications. Those
very few applications do their own thing as far as window dragging is
concerned, and you will simply get the familiar outline when dragging one
of their windows.

For those of you who would like to drop me a line to commend my efforts, or
to report a bug (commending of efforts preferred.), here is my address:

            Michael Grossmann
            Spessartweg 76
            6236 Eschborn
            Federal Republic of Germany
            Voice/Fax: [phone]
            FidoNet: Michael Grossmann @ 2:249/100
            Internet: [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/ex/drag-window-ii-23.hqx; 9K]

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 13:02:19 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Educational Software for disabled children (summary)

Hi Ilan,

I saw your request for shareware educational / games for kids with
motor disabilities (I assume that the kids are using some sort of
"single switch" device like a puffer switch or chin switch, etc.).
I have seen very few shareware games but there is a commercial
company called "Don Johnston Software" that sells hardware and
software for single-switching for Macs and older Apples. I don't
have the address here at work, but I can get it for you if you'ld like.

[Archived as /info-mac/report/disabled-children-software.txt; 5K]

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 13:06:38 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Educational Software for Medical studies (summary)

Hello,

I am also interested in medical and dental software.  Did you get any
responses?

I do not know much about the dental end, but a neuroscience related group is
very succesfully using a videodisk called 'Slice of Life' along with a
Hypercard
stack called HyperBrain that controls the videodisk.  If you are interested in
more info I would search it out for you.

take care
tim cera
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/report/medical-dental-software.txt; 4K]

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 11:20:52 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Jan Schipmolder)
Subject: [*] game/hangman-10-whw.hqx

I am sending you a not-so-recent(?) hangman game named
"HangMan 10.0", authored by Ken Winograd. What's new is that
I have included a "HangWords" file, i.e., an external text
file containing 19003 words from which "HangMan 10.0" can
select words at random, if so directed. The HangWords come
>From a Unix workstation: the original file is named
/usr/lib/dict/words, but I kept only the words that have 16
or fewer characters and that contain nothing but lower case
letters. Compact Pro'd, and then BinHex4'd. Works on a
MacPlus under 6.0.x and 7.x, and on a MacIIci under 7.1. If
you archive this, may I suggest you do so under the name
game/hangman-10-whw.hqx (whw=with hang words)

[Archived as /info-mac/game/hangman-100.hqx; 121K]

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Date: 27 Apr 93 17:32:11 EDT
From: bruce grubb <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Mac & IBM Compare-Version 1.7.8

Archive name: mac-ibm-compare178.txt
category: text

This is Version 1.7.8 of this report & should replace mac-ibm-compare177.txt.

Changes: SVGA section tightened, added VRAM info, SCSI section rewritten,
PowerPC hardware info moved to hardware section, IBM-Mac 7.1 info updated,
NeXTstep info expanded.
It contains some important changes, additions and clarifications.  Due to the
rapid changes in computers I am interested in contributions from Digest and
other readers to flesh out, correct or point
out confusing parts of the report.  Send comments and information to
CompuServe: 72130,3557; AOL: BruceG6069; or Internet: [e-mail].
This report compares the Mac and IBM machines CPUs, hardware {monitor support
and expansion}, operating systems {includes number crunching}, networking &
printing; it covers not only present hardware/software statistics and features

but also future possibilities.
Despite its condensed and generalized format it still provides some thought-
provoking reading on the relative merits, problems, and deficiencies of Macs
and IBM PCs.  It also contains some FAQ answers about both machines.
Note:  for proper reading off line this document should be in 9 point Monaco.

[Archived as /info-mac/report/mac-ibm-compare-178.txt; 46K]

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 13:05:54 -0400
From: "Jay Geagan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] MacMandelMovieMaker v1.0

MacMandelMovieMaker is FREEWARE.  This program creates a sequence of PICT
files,
spiraling into a point on the Mandelbrot set.  Requires FPU and Color
QuickDraw.
Also needs utility to glue PICT files into a movie, such as MovieMaker.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/mac-mandel-movie-maker-10.hqx; 119K]

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 17:56:09 -0500
From: [e-mail] (matthew battey)
Subject: [*] Matt Paint 1.9.2

Matt Paint 1.9.2 is a shareware 256 color paing program for the
Apple Macintosh.  It features 16 different tool, 3 of which are
coustomizeable.  The coustomizeable tools include a paint brush, eraser,
and selector that has 6 different modes, one of which is a coustomizeable
lasso tool.

It was publishe on AMUG's(Arizona Macintosh User Group) "BBS in a Box"
cd-rom, and is also located on America On line.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/matt-paint-192.hqx; 128K]

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 18:32:39 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Nick B Triantos)
Subject: [*] MerryXMas Hypercard Virus Vaccine

The enclosed self-extracting archive contains a Hypercard 2.1-based vaccine
for the MerryXMas Virus.  The MerryXMas Virus is a Hypercard script-based
virus that spreads by attaching itself to the Home stack.  Since it only
spreads through the use of Hypercard, there is absolutely no reason why
non-Hypercard users would need it.  Hypercard 2.1 is required, and a color
monitor is optional.  Written by Bill Swagerty ([e-mail])
of Claris Technical Support, in his spare time.  Documentation is included.

-Nick Triantos
 Claris Techincal Support

[Archived as /info-mac/virus/merry-xmas-hypercard-vaccine.hqx; 90K]

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 12:56:30 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Mionitor.hqx - System 7 Monitoring Tool

Hello,

I would like to submit the following Macintosh utility to the Info-Mac
archives.

Thank You
-Mark

                Monitor 1.4-0
             Copyright   1991-1993 Mark Alldritt
                 All Rights Reserved

Monitor is a utility for the Macintosh which allows you to see the level of
activity taking place within your computer.  Monitor presents a number of
different types of information ranging from CPU utilization to disk space
availability.  Much of the information presented by Monitor is displayed
using
simple graphs.

Monitor relies heavily on facilities of the Macintosh System 7 operating
system
to gather data about your Macintosh.  As a result, Monitor will not work
with
versions of the Macintosh operating system prior to System 7.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/monitor.hqx; 28K]

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 11:43:44 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Judith Haller)
Subject: [*] NSF Forms for Word/Excel updated

(Upload should replace /info-mac/misc/nsf-proposal-forms-for-Word.hqx)

With appreciation to everyone who spotted problems and suggested
improvements, here is a revision to the NSF Forms package for Word 4 or 5
and Excel 3 or 4. These forms are stationery documents formatted to look
like the National Science Foundation's proposal submission forms. The forms
are filled out on screen and printed out on plain paper. They are designed
to work with Apple's Postscript Times and Helvetica fonts (not TrueType)
and a Postscript printer.

Changes to Word forms:
- Cover Sheet: All the blanks default to Times 12, upper and lower case.
- Current and Pending Support: Check boxes are smaller to more closely
approximate the original form.
- Cell row heights are locked down to prevent forms from overflowing the
page when cell contents wrap to an extra line.
- Added the Project Summary form.
_ Added the Ship Request form.

Changes to Excel budget forms:
- Summary page array now correctly totals Line L [gulp!] if you don't
encounter 'the bug'. If you do encounter the bug, the Troubleshooting
section of the readme tells how to squash it.
- Revised to work with Excel 3 or 4, instead of version 4 only.
- Option added to automatically entitle each page "Summary" with "Year 1 of
x" appearing to the right. (My department is required to entitle each page
as "Year 1", "Year 2", etc., so I left the template that way.)
- Added Beginning/Ending Project Date fields to upper right corner.
- Senior Personnel List now has a fifth line.
- Removed the word "Program" from the lower right corner.

Budget Templates that work with Excel 2.2a can be emailed to anyone who
requests them.

Judith Haller
Microcomputer Applications Specialist
Univ of Texas at Austin, Institute for Geophysics

[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/misc/nsf-proposal-forms-for-word.hqx; 163K]

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 11:49:23 MET DST
From: "Rene G.A. Ros" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Suppl. Gestalt Selectors List 1.5

Hi,

Here is the latest version of the

Supplemental Gestalt Selectors List.

It replaces the previous version in the /tech directory.

One last note:
 C.S. Yong ([e-mail]) contacted me but I am not able to get
 any mail to him. Can he contact me again and provide a correct email
 address???

Rene Ros
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/tech/gestalt-selectors-15.txt; 52K]

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 10:44 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] System 7 Pack! 3.4.1

System 7 Pack! 3.4.1 - New!

(3.4.1 fixes a major bug for international users.)

Rated 4 Mice by MacUser Magazine!

New version is 100% compatible with System 7.1. Plus, new documentation in
DOCMaker format. And two new super value deals from Insanely Great Software.

Just some of the features of the System 7 Pack!I
-Increases speed of Finder copies by 300%
-Increases speed of Finder by removing ZoomRects.
-Change Finder's menu command keys!
-Add application-document links. (e.g. MacWrite ---> MS Word.)
-Change the way the Finder displays the date in its windows!
-Eliminate the rename delay!
-Suppress annoying dialog boxes!
-And Much More!

Or, you can order directly by calling Insanely Great Software at
800-368-5195.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/system-7-pack-341.hqx; 119K]

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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 16:53:14 PDT
From: [e-mail] (MR Mac - Michael Robertson)
Subject: [*] Talker2.0.sit

Talker is software that utilizes the microphone and speaker of  your
Macintosh computer to allow you to talk to another user with a Macintosh
computer connected to your AppleTalk network.  Talker will allow you to
talk over short distances (LAN), long distances (WAN) or even through the
air (Wireless).  As long as the other user is connected through AppleTalk,
then you can talk.  Talker consists of three parts:

Talk-Out lets you talk through the built-in microphone or a third party
microphone.  You can talk while Talk-Out is running in the background and
you are working on another application.

Talk-In lets you listen to another user through the speaker on your
Macintosh.

Talk-Control lets you control various Talk-In options.


Michael

[Archived as /info-mac/app/talker-20.hqx; 89K]

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Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 16:23:59 CDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] The Gzip program

Dear Sysop,
    This program is the one that converts the .z format.  I got it
>From an FTP site in Ireland, and have been requested to post the file
here.  If I messed up the mailing of this file, please let me know,
and I will try again.  Thanks.

Chris Reynolds
[e-mail]            [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/util/gzip.hqx; 65K]

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Date: 26 Apr 1993 18:17:05 -0700 (MST)
From: Scott Patlin <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Update for empire master rule set "Fantastic" now 1.1

Here is an update of my Empire Master rule set, Fantastic universe:
Men and Monsters I and II.  The new version has more color icons
(size 10 pieces are now shown in color) and is friendlier to aggressive
pieces.  The new version number is 1.1, it is a more advanced version
of the file listed at sumex as Empire-Master-Rule-Set.hqx or something
quite similiar in the info-mac/games directory.

You still need to have the empire master game (registered version)
to play it, so send the author your $$$ right now!

This rule set includes warriors, griffins, dragons, invisible
stalkers and other fantasy creatures with which you can reak
mayhem upon your adversary.

Please replace any prior versions you may have with the following file:

[Archived as /info-mac/game/empire-master-rule-set-11.hqx; 33K]

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Date: 28 Apr 1993 06:49:39 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (A) Error Codes

     (A) Error Codes
"Benjamin \"Waldo\" Smith" <[e-mail]> asks:

>I was wondering where I can obtain a list for Macintosh error
>codes? I have received numerous codes of type -192 and I would
>really like to know what it means.  It has been happening a lot
>of late this afternoon.  Any help anyone could provide would be
>wonderful.

According to my System Errors app, error -192 is a resNotFound (Resource not
found) error.  You're not specific enough as to when the errors occur (i.e.
every time time launch Word, when you're doing recalcs in Excel, opening your
QuickMail, etc.) or if there *IS* no pattern.  If it happens in many programs,
it's probably referring to a System resource, in which case I'd suggest
reinstalling your system software.  If you can localize it to a particular
program, then I'd turn my attention there and reinstall that program.

BTW, you can get the System Errors 7.01 at sumex:
     /info-mac/util/system-errors-701.hqx

(There's a DA called info-mac/util/sys-errors-da.hqx which I'm not sure
how it compares to the system-errors-701.hqx file mentioned above.)

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 22:58:22 GMT
From: Bill Pearson <[e-mail]>
Subject: 1024x800 on NEC 5FG

    I have just purchased a Quadra 800 and an NEC 5FG monitor.  The
monitor seems to be capable of much higher than 640 x 480 resolution,
as is the Quadra, but I have not idea how to do this.

    Do I need a new cable?  Where do I get it?  Software?  I don't
need lots of colors (although I will get more VRAM) - I just want more
dots.

Bill Pearson

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 12:25:12 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Brian V. Hughes)
Subject: 68040 does not neccessarily have an FPU (C)

-- Scott Kaplan <[e-mail]> writes --

>The 68040 used in the Centris 610 is not a full-fledged 68040 chip.  It is
>a 68LC040 (I believe that's how the labelling goes) which does not have an
>FPU in it at all.  Motorola started making this chip for Apple, who requested
>it in order to turn out lower-cost machines.

    This is correct. The C610 and the base 4/80 C650 use the LC040
version of the 68040 chip. I think that Motorola starting making this
chip as a possible lo-cost solution for Apple, but it relly took off
when Radius bought it to make their Rocket 25i accelerator card.

>This chip apparently (from what I've read from others here) cannot be
>easily replaced with a full 68040 with the FPU in it.  So the lack of an
>FPU option for the Centris 610 is a bit more important than you may have
>thought.

    This is the dreaded "heat sink" controversy/rumor that has been
going on in comp.sys.mac.hardware since the C610 was released on Feb.
10th. It is not true. This has been verified by Dale Adams of Apple
Centris & Quadra Hardware Design Team. The LC040 in the C610 is socketed
to make replacing it with a full '040 possible. Since any '040 chip you
put in the C610 will be running at 20Mhz (the speed of the system bus)
it does not require a heat sink. Also there is code in the ROMs to allow
the C610 to recognize a full '040 and use the FPU.

-Hades

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 15:05:26 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Michael Roman)
Subject: 99 bottles

   Let's see...at, say 10 seconds/"verse", and a quadrillion "verses", I
estimate that it would take about 300 million years to get through all
those bottles ;-)
   Someone is truly an optimist. I'd buy a UPS, just in case...

Mike Roman
[e-mail]

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Date: 28 Apr 93 16:47:58 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [Q] simple SLIP

The board I call has finally gotten a direct Internet connection and so I can
FTP to hell and highwater... the thing is I want to be able to get files
directly to my Mac without having to transfer them to my UNIX directory and
then
to my Mac... I hear SLIP should be the answer.  So now i'm trying to figure
out
how to get SLIP working (or anything similar). I don't have a direct
connection
to the UNIX account (I dial up) but have also heard SLIP connections can still
be made.  I've gotten NCSA/BYU Telnet (which is supposed to have built-in
MacTCP
) and can't make heads or tails of it.. and playing around doesn't get me too
far either. I've also read the info-mac file about telnet, but it seems to
deal
specifically with direct connects and only breifly mentions dial-in
connections
(using ARA).  Can anyone gimme a hand with this? What PD software should I
use?
Is it all just a hopeless dream?

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 10:40:23 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Steven W. Holland)
Subject: Abaton InterFAX Modem Upgrade Offer

Everex Systems Inc. is the owner of Abaton's former InterFAX modem product.
 Previous articles in INFO-MAC described their upgrade offers.  As you may
know, the InterFAX 1.3 software has a few highly irratating bugs.  These
are never going to be fixed since the problems appear seated in the modem
hardware itself.

Everex (1-510-683-2800) recommends buying a chip set upgrade from them for
the modem which costs $34.50 + tax and shipping.  Then you also need to buy
new software since the InterFAX software doesn't work after the chip
upgrade. They recommend FAXstf from Telefocus 1-816-463-2021. This comes in
standalone and network versions ($79-$120 + tax and shipping).  After great
difficulty and delay (a month), Everex shipped the chip set.  The software
>From Telefocus came instantly upon order.

Everex sent an extra chip in the box which, if actually used, prevents the
modem from operating at all.  Once we took out the extra "diversionary"
chip, it now appears to work normally.  There was a little extra confusion
since the instructions which they sent only applied to PC internal modems.
Anyway, we did eventually figure it out after a few phone calls.  They also
sent some free modem software but it only works on PCs so that was not real
helpful either.

The FAXstf software we purchased is the network version.  It seems to work
quite nicely so far and looks to be a significant improvement over InterFAX
1.3.  It does have one annoying quirk/bug that bothers me.  When you go to
send a FAX and need to select the parties to whom you want to send, the
list only shows you only the "company" field and not the "person's name"
field--hence it is a big problem if you happen to ever want to have more
than one addressee per company.  (The developer MUST have considered that
possibility???).  They recommend fixing the problem by putting the person's
name into the "company" field and vice versa (clumsey to say the least but
it works).  There is also one other minor quirk--the nice little cover
sheets are automatically generated and addressed with "name" followed by a
comma followed by a dash followed by "company"--there must be something
here I don't appreciate?  When you call the technical help line, they will
take suggestions but they aren't exactly helpful.

Bottom line:  If you own an Abaton InterFAX modem, I would now recommend
you do the $34.50 chip upgrade and then get the $79 or higher (depending on
your network needs) software replacement.  I hasten to add that I offer no
guarantees and that this is just a public service announcement which I hope
will be of use to some of you.

-Steve Holland

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Date: 29 Apr 1993 08:51:48 +0100 (MET)
From: HANS KROEGER <[e-mail]>
Subject: A comment about posting answers to the digest.

In a recent digest "Benjamin \"Waldo\" Smith" says:
>   I was wondering where I can obtain a list for Macintosh error
>   codes? I have received numerous codes of type -192 ......

Wayne K. Walrath replied:
>Did you bother to look around in the archives?
>How much more time would you have spent if instead of sending a
>message to Info-Mac, you first ftp'd to Sumex, cd'd to the most
>obvious directories ....
>Next time, spend a little time looking... (and people wonder why their
>questions go unanswered).

Just a little comment:
I started using this listserver because people like Rainer Daeschler, Jerry
Wilcox, Jeff Needleman, or Allan M. Bloom (to name just a few) did not
hesitate to answer my often stupid and naive questions. These answers were in
a friendly tone and had no "you should have done ..." undertone !
Keep in mind there are people who just learned how to subscribe to the digest
and post messages via E-Mail, but have no direct ftp access and don't know
yet how to retreive an index via E-Mail.
Also a posting like the one above will tell other people that there is such a
tool which explains to you what these error codes mean. I learned a lot by
simply following these conversations in the digest. This brings me to the
final point:

I see more and more questions going unanswered. I guess many of these
questions are answered directly by E-Mail to the originator. I would like to
see more answers in the digest, however I know that there is a risk that the
digest would then become flooded with them....
What is your opinion ?

Hans Kroeger
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 18:54 EST
From: E=MC^2 <[e-mail]>
Subject: After Dark - the one module option (A)

Dear Netters,
If some of you are looking for a simple screen saver, you can simply empty the
After Dark Files folder after installation to leaving one file
left (like Clock or FadeAway) to
have a simple screen saver.  That way you don't have your hard disk memory
hogged.  - in response to those looking for a simple screen saver.

Sincerely,

ABRODY @ CLARKU

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 11:49:26 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: After Dark updater - not latest version

Hi all,

I just checked out the After Dark 2.0x updater on sumex (util/ad). There
were a number of versions of this updatr released, and this isn't the
latest one. The latest one is 2.0x updater v1.0.2, while early versions
were not given version numbers.

Would it be possible for someone who has the 2.0x updater v1.02 to submit it?
This version of the updater clears the embedded password (which the first
release of the updater may have scrambled), fixes a bug in Fish where the
sea floor is shown in blocks of inverted colour (visible in some video modes
on some Macs - I get this on my IIsi in 16-colour mode) that was present
in the second (still no version) release of tthe updater, AND adds longer
Randomiser times (half an hour, an hour...) by updating the Randomiser
properly.

In other words, you may have the latest version of After Dark, but is it
REALLY the latest version? My thanks to whoever submits this.

Oh, and my After Dark FAQ v0.3 will be out in about five weeks time.

Regards

Lloyd Wood
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 14:23:39 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Bob Waffenschmidt)
Subject: An X-windows on mac over phone lines interface

I am looking for a way to connect a macintosh X-windows server to a
remote client over standard phonelines.  I am trying to determined the
software needed.  And an acceptable modem.

thanks in advance bob

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Date: 28 Apr 1993 05:06:52 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Derek Butcher)
Subject: Apple Calvary

For the gentleman at Trinity College of VT who had trouble getting Macs at his
"small college":

My mother is a business professor at University of Puget Sound here in
Washington (approx 3,000 students) and she is trying to do the same thing you
have been doing: convert the old ibm system to Macintosh. She also has met
with resistance, but she says Apple has been extremely helpful. She is trying
to convert her dept. first, and she started by first expressing her desire for
a Mac, then doing a little schmoozing with rich alums, and then talking to the
Dean about the Mac advantage. She had an Apple Ed. Rep contact her because he
is hoping to convert the school, and he knows she is interested. She says the
Apple rep gave her a price list that beat the educational discount I get at
the University of Washington (approx 35,000 students).

In short, there doesn't seem to be a correlation (in WA at least) between
school size and Apple help/prices, so I would try that Ed rep again and stay
hopeful.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 15:27:06 -0700
From: [e-mail] (John Jack Repenning)
Subject: Application Use Logger?

Is there some shareware utility to log which applications (all right:
games!) are used, and for how long?  I'd like to see what gets used
the most, and what the least, on my home Mac, which is mostly used by
my kids, who mostly can't remember what they've been doing!

I've seen commercial things of this sort, generally described as
helping you charge for contract work, or justify a tax write-off.  But
spending $$$ to see which freware games I can dump to make room for
more freeware games seems a bit extreme!

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 08:44:57 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Backup program information available

In Regards to your letter <[e-mail]>:
> This may be a good time to start looking for another backup program, so I
> would like to know, if anybody out there has any knowledge about other
> backup programs, that will enable me to make, and edit macros, and let my
> machine start the program at different times, to execute different macros.

Shameless plug. You can get some useful, but inherently biased,
information about Dantz Development's four backup programs
(DiskFit Direct, DiskFit Pro, Retrospect 2.0, and Retrospect
Remote) direct from Dantz via the TidBITS fileserver for the
next two weeks due to their sponsorship of TidBITS this month.

Although the information comes straight from Dantz, not an
uninterested third party, I made sure that they posted useful
stuff rather than advert-fluff. Among this information is a
Workbook for Workgroups white paper and a list of all the tape
drives by manufacturer and model (including mechanism type)
that Retrospect supports. I think the information is complete
enough that it will help you decide for yourself if Dantz's
programs will help, and no one will know these programs better
than Dantz. Personal recommendations will still have to come
>From individuals.

To get a compressed file (29K) in StuffIt 3.0 and BinHex format
containing all this information along with a pre-built Easy
View index to the files. send email (any subject, any body
text) to:

   [e-mail]

To get just the 73K of straight text of all this information (if
you can't download to a Mac from your email), please send
email (any subject, any body text) to:

   [e-mail]

(Note that the TidBITS fileserver runs on uAccess via UUCP, so
 there is only mailserver access, no FTP.)

Thanks for helping to support TidBITS, and I hope you find the
information useful. That's the point of making it available in
the first place.

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

------------------------------

Date: 28 Apr 1993 12:30:31 -0500
From: "Tom Scott" <[e-mail]>
Subject: BinHex 4.0 (A)

     BinHex 4.0 (A)
jason b yom <[e-mail]> asks:

>I have been going through /info-mac for last two week.  I see a lot of
>freewares and shrewares that I would like to use.  However, there is a
>problem:  I don't have a copy of BinHex 4.0, which is required in order to
>use any file in your site.


Get info-mac/util/stuffit-expander-301.hqx.  It's been awhile since I
downloaded it, but I think it downloads to an .sea (Self-Extracting Archive)
file.  This means you can just double-click on it and it wil extract itself.
Then you can use stuffit-expander to decompress .sit (Stuffit), .hqx (BinHex),
and .cpt (Compact Pro) files.

Hope this helps!

Thomas Scott, Systems Manager, College of Engineering
Cornell University, Carpenter Hall Annex, Ithaca, NY  14853

------------------------------

Date: 28 Apr 1993 09:27:33 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: C++ for the Mac File /INFO-MAC/UTIL/FILE-TYPER-40.HQX is not
retrievable

Dear Netters

beeing in touch with programming C++ on UNIX systems at work I would be
interested to hack out some tricky details at home for getting an even better
understandung of the language. Is there any appropriate C++ compiler available
for the Mac without even buying a complete MPW? For my LISP exercises I used
the XLISP system which perfectly suited my needs. Are there similar PD or
shareware C++ systems (for example GNU C++) for the Mac?

Thanx for replies,

Jens Eickhoff
([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 19:31:04 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Class/Faculty scheduling programs, maybe?

We have a problem here in the SUNY-Albany History Department
that someone out there must have addressed in a more elegant
way than ourselves. The problem is class scheduling and
faculty allocation--we have 22 or so faculty people, each of
whom have specific talents and we need some way to set up
(hopefully in a multi-year fashion) courses to meet the
needs of our grad and undergrad students, to optimize use of
space on this concrete-monster campus, etc. Up to now our
chairs and their AAs have sat down with massive hunks of
butcher paper and a mess of pencils with lots of erasers. The
process stinks. Seems to me that there must be some sort of
optimization program that would do the trick? Can any of you
out there in Netland suggest such a beast?

Thanx in advance.
***********************************
* bob frost           SUNY-Albany *
* dept of history     Albany, NY  *
***********************************

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 18:25:46 CDT
From: Michael Conwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Clip art and/or eps

Can anyone tell me where I can ftp to pick up some clip art and eps
figures??

Please mail me, I will summarize on net.

Thanks,

Mike Conwell
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 01:50:14 EDT
From: [e-mail] (2d Lt Avram Dorfman)
Subject: Deskpict (R)

I am pretty sure that Deskpict uses the current monitor color settings to
decide how to draw the picture, and here is why:

If you boot in b&w, Deskpict (like everything else) does its thing sans
color.
But after booting, if you switch to color mode (doesn't matter how many bits),
the backdrop remains b&w, even though everything else becomes color.

If my understanding of 32-bit Color QuickDraw is correct, it takes whatever
it is given, and optimizes it for the relevant color settings. Thus, since
Deskpict stays in b&w, it must be giving QuickDraw b&w information in the
first
place.

I am not certain about anything I have said here, and I welcome any
corrections, since I am in the process of learning this stuff myself. I may
attempt a rewrite of Deskpict myself this summer, but my goal will simply
be my own education. If it works, I will submit it under the assumption that
it will solve the current Deskpict's compatability problems with Sys 7.

-Avram Dorfman ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 12:24:01 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Bill Cummins)
Subject: DOS .prn files on a Mac Printer [Q]

I have a DOS (PC) application (Atlas GIS) that can produce print files as
output and that has drivers for a HP DJ 500C.  I have a HP DJ 500C, but it
has the apple network connection instead of the PC printer connection.

How can I copy the PC print file to the Apple-HP printer, and get output?
I will summarize any responses sent to me. (_Seems_ like it should work,
but so far, it doesn't!)

Bill Cummins ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 28 Apr 1993 10:38 +0100 (MET)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: emailaddress of MacDTS ??

dear readers, fellow netters,

This is a question for the developers I think:

I would like to register the 'creatorID' of a program I'm developing in the
moment. In the book ' Macintosh primer ' the autors suggest to write to
MacDTS on Applelink to ask them to register. Well I did. Sent a message to:
[e-mail] and guess what. The postmaster of Apple returns
the message telling the adress is not a valid address.
Could someone please tell me how to get my 'creatorID' registered. And if
is not to inconveniant tell me which steps are the proper way to do so.

greetings and thanks in advance,

Cees Baarda, Rotterdam Polytechnic, Academy of Fine Arts & Design Rotterdam
         Email : [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 07:46:01 +0200
From: [e-mail] (H}kon Klausen)
Subject: Ethernett Questions (A)

We use an AsantePrint box to connect a LaserWriter and a PowerBook 170 to
the office ethernett.  It allows printing, file sharing etc, (all
AppleTalk-based functions) to be performed between the nodes of the 2-nodes
LocalTalk network and the EtherNet Network.  It even allows macs on the
localtalk to use encapsulated TCP/IP through a Cayman GatorBox on the
EtherNett.

I also use an Asante EN/SC to connect my PowerBook 180 to the EtherNet, and
that has never given me any trouble.  Recomended, even if a little bit
expensive.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 10:47:00 IST
From: "Dr. Michael Silverstein"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: eudora scripts

I am trying to use Eudora from home using a modem and the modem tool.
Unfortunately when I dial the university I am confronted with a
menu and not immediate access to the computer, ie, I have to type:
UNIX <enter> to be presented with the standard userid/password dialogue.

Our neighbourhood communications man says that a script could be written
to get around this, but he is too swamped at present.....I know little of
scripts etc.

a) is there a way to get around this problem so that Eudora can choose the
right answers on the menu and proceed as usual afterwards?

b) has anyone done this so that I can get some pointers or a script that I can
modify mylf?

Thanks to anyone who can help me with this.  If someone does send me a script
and their permission, I can post it with appropriate instructuions
to help all those that are in a similar bind.....mike

Michael Silverstein
Materials Engineering
Technion

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 11:39:22 -0700
From: [e-mail] (Randy Bradley)
Subject: FTF File Utility [request]

   Is there an FTF user out there who would be kind enough to upload the
FTF file utility?  Thanks bunches.  I would like to export completed tasks.
 The following is from appendix B of the FTF manual:

>ooooAppendix B:  FTF File Utilityoooo
>
<The FTF File Utility is an application SEPARATE from the First Things
First >program.  It should be available from the same source you received
FTF from.  ...
>The FTF File Utility allows you to do the following:
>
>o   Merge the contents of two FTF files into one FTF Agenda file
>o   Export the contents of FTF files to text files
>o   Import the contents of text files to FTF files


*****     oops (The object of my afflictions)     *****
Randy Bradley; [phone]; email: [e-mail]
US Meat Animal Research Center
Clay Center, Ne.  68938

------------------------------

Date: 28 Apr 1993 17:35:26 +1200
From: "matt n." <[e-mail]>
Subject: ftp for people without ftp

[e-mail] writes: --- quote follows ---
Not all of us have ftp or other access to download FAQs, which
can make it difficult to read them before posting here...
One of the nicest things about this list is that you can post here
and learn things with only basic email access--- end quote ---

Okay, but this may be a good place to remind people that you
can often ftp with just email alone. If you send email to
[e-mail], you can ask the computer there to
send you a copy of anything on the sumex archive (including
directories, so you can find out what's in the sumex archive). You
can't do this if there is a gateway bottleneck that large things
can't pass through, though. To get instructions, send it a message
reading
$mac help
 --------
matt neuburg, phd = [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 09:45:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: STACEY Donahue <[e-mail]>
Subject: GroupWare Experience

I work in a research lab that studies the use of groupware to support
problem solving.

I would like to hear from folks who use groupware at their worksites.  I'm
particularly interest in:

The program(s) you use

What you use it for

The benefits/limitations you perceive it offers

Technical glitches you may have encountered

Additional communication channels you use (i.e. shared docs plus audio
link or teleconferencing)

Please email me directly.  I'll summarize and post the results.

Thanks
Stacey Donahue
Cognitive Science and Machine Intelligence Lab @ University of Michigan

[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 09:06:59 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Help with catalogging  ICONs needed (Q)

Hello all,
   I have a ton of CICNs, ICONs, and every other kind of icon I can think
of.... is there some kind of librarian of sorts that goes through each one in
the collection and compare all of them for duplicates.  Maybe it could even
separate out all of the 32x32 and 64x64 (heck, as long as I am dreaming, why
not separate all of the 256 colors from the apple palette from the grayscale
>From the B&W?)   Given that there is "only" a grid of either  64x64, 32x32,
or
smaller, it don't think that there is too much data to deal with (I could be
wrong :-))  and should be relatively easy to program.... one problem... I am
not a programmer. So could someone point me in the right direction or maybe
even come up with a "little" hack to help me out?   A similar librarian for
snds, sys7 sounds, etc. would be greatly appreciated as well, but I know that
would take a lot more time to program (unless it's already been done :-))

Any help would be greatly appreciated... heck, I'll even send in the shareware
fee ;-)
Dimitri Katsaros

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 15:45:22 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Hi Speed Fax modem CARD?

Hi all.  I've got a Hayse (yes, an acutal Hayse) 2400 baud modem card in my
IIci.  It is really nice because I have a MIDI connection using my modem
serial port and everything automatically knows what ports to use.  It isn't
that nice though, because it is 2400 baud.  Obviously I'd like to get a
14400 fax modem (very stylich right now you know) but I don't want to lose
the feature of not having to unplug midi replug modem etc. everytime I
switch.
Does anyone at all make a 14400 fax modem card (aside from PowerBook ones)
that fits in the IIci's expansion slots?

Thanks...

        Aric Friesen

------------------------------

Date: 28 Apr 1993 16:35:03 GMT
From: Jonathan D. Baumgartner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #89

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
writes:
>>   Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1993 16:56:28 -0400 (EDT)
>>   From: "Benjamin \"Waldo\" Smith" <[e-mail]>
>>   Subject: (Q) Error Codes
>>
>>   Hi!
>>   I was wondering where I can obtain a list for Macintosh error
>>   codes? I have received numerous codes of type -192 and I would really
like
>
>Did you bother to look around in the archives?
>
>How much more time would you have spent if instead of sending a
>message to Info-Mac, you first ftp'd to Sumex, cd'd to the most
>obvious directories where that information might reside (eg, /util,
>/tech, or perhaps /app, for starters) and then typed in "ls -l *sys*"
>or "ls -l *err*", and see what comes up.
>
>So, this time, I did it for you, and here is what I found:
>
>/info-mac/util/system-errors-701.hqx
>/info-mac/util/sys-errors-da.hqx
>
>Next time, spend a little time looking... (and people wonder why their
>questions go unanswered).

Wayne, you've got a serious attitude.  There was nothing unreasonable about
that question.  It certainly didn't deserve any sort of patronizing response.
How much more time would it have cost you to simply tell him about the two
programs instead of verbally flogging him?  Probably a lot less.

I don't think /app or /tech are neccessarily "obvious" directories.  The names
of the directories on Sumex are not as clear-cut as they probably ought to
be.

Jon

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 18:45 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #89

In the control panel BootBeep, click on the version number and watch!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 13:48:31 CST
From: [e-mail] (chian wang)
Subject: Installing A/UX on SE/30 (Q)

Hello, Mac gurus:

I am considering to install A/UX on my SE/30 with 8MB RAM for my project. Does
any one have the experience about this? How about the performance on a SE/30?
And how much disk space does it need to archieve its "optimal" performance and
features?

Thanks in advance.

Chian Wang, Institute of Computer Science, NCHU, Taiwan
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 26 Apr 1993 14:02:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: steve jaffe <[e-mail]>
Subject: launching invisible apps (A)

In Info-Mac Digest V11 #87, Richard Lim writes

 -----------------------------
How do you make an application executable but not copyable over a network?

The "obvious" way would be to make the application or the folder that
contains it invisible, but of course "invisibility" has been tightened up
under System 7 so that you can no longer launch the app by double-clicking
one of its visible documents.

The next thing that might seem possible is to launch the app using a
process manager utility like NoFinder.  Unfortunately, NoFinder respects
the Finder's invisibility bit in its standard file dialog box so you can
never see the thing you want to launch.  The same appears to be true of
Process Watcher 2.0.

Finally one might consider sending an AppleEvent to the application, which
is probably what NoFinder would do assuming you could see the app in order
to select it.  But I don't know if invisible apps can hear AppleEvents sent
to them by other means (not that I have other means, and don't tell me to
go buy AppleScript :-) ).

So, any suggestions?

 -----------------------------

I, too, had considered this problem; specifically, I wanted to be able to let
a
student run an app on my machine, using system 7 filesharing, without being
able
to copy it.  An "obvious" solution, putting an alias in the shared volume and
making the app itself invisible, will not work - system 7 is too clever.  It
is
also too clever to be fooled if you put the app itself in a non-shared folder,
with an alias in a shared folder.

However, I came across a little utility called Tonto which, with a little
work,
will do the trick. Tonto, which is available at info-mac (/util/tonto.hqx), is
just an application that will, once configured, launch another application,
even
if the other app is invisible. So you follow label directions, put a copy of
Tonto in the same folder as your app, configure Tonto to launch the app, then
make the app invisible, and now launching Tonto will launch the app.

Not. Not from a remote machine using filesharing.  The problem is that Tonto
sets a path to the app referring to the top level, which when you configure it
is, say, your HD, but when a remote user accesses it is the name of the shared
volume.  There is a simple way around this:

1. Make a folder to use for sharing (called, say, "Shared stuff").  Click the
box "Make all enclosed folders like this one" in the Filesharing dialog.
2. Do not put your app into this folder yet.  Keep your app in a separate
folder
(say "App Folder").
3. Put a copy of Tonto into App Folder and configure it to launch the App.
4. Make the app invisible
5. Put the App Folder inside Shared Stuff.

Now from your machine Tonto will _not_ launch the app, but from a remote
machine
using filesharing, it _will_.

This only works for applications.  I haven't yet worked out a way to
copy-protect related documents.

Tonto is PD and comes with source code, so I expect some enterprising hacker
(not I) will be able to fix things so the path is set correctly without the
rigamorole above.

PS. Be careful that you follow directions and always work with a _copy_ of
Tonto, not the original; otherwise you will find yourself, like me,
downloading
a new copy each time you want a new configuration!

Steve Jaffe
Math Dept, Vassar College, Poughkeepsie NY
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 12:49:43 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Brian V. Hughes)
Subject: LC/Daystar vs LCIII (C)

-- Barry Markovitz <[e-mail]> writes --

>I have read with interest the comments about upgrading the LC or LCII to
>the LCIII.  I have a Daystar 33 mHz 68030 accelerator in my LC.  Is
>there any advantage to the Apple upgrade for me?

    Absolutely. In fact you could use that Daystar card in the LCIII if
you wanted and have, effectively, a IIvx at home and at work.

>It seems the question boils down to whether the 32 bit data bus is going
>to noticeably improve things for me, since the clock speeds are similar.

   Moving from a 16-bit wide data path to a 32-bit wide data path with
flat out double your performace when accessing memory. This will give
you about a 1.5x speed boost, due to wait states I think, in the actual
performance of the computer.

>I have 6 megs of RAM and don't forsee the need to go above 10; upgrading
>to the LCIII for me would mean throwing away my two 2 meg SIMMS and
>having to buy new 72 pin ones.

    You could probably sell the two 2MB SIMMs and get about $100 for the
two of them, since they are used.

>I got the LC with the VRAM upgrade and am able to do 8 bit color on my
>13" monitor already.  (I have a IIvx at work, so the Daystar card,
>unless I upgrade that TOO!, won't do me much there :-) ).

    You could then use about $20 of that $100 to get a 256k SIMM and
have 16-bit color on your 13" monitor with the LCIII upgrade.

>BTW, anyone know the deal with Daystar and upgrade prices;  one is supposed
to
>be able to upgrade the card for the price difference, but the prices have
come
>down.  I'd have to check, but I think one could get the 40 or even 50 mHz
card
>today for what I paid for the 33 mHz one a year ago.  So what's my "price
>difference?"

    You pay the difference in current list prices of the card you have
and the card you want to go to. I'm pretty sure that the price your card
was when you bought it will have no bearing whatsoever on the upgrade
policy of Daystar.

-Hades

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 12:56:04 -0500
From: David Bourne <[e-mail]>
Subject: LocalTalk and Ethernet simultaneously (A)

> I seem to be missing something. How does one use a local printer
> attached to the printer port (a LaserWriter IIg and IIsi) while
> still having Ethernet available for file sharing etc? Right now
> it seems that you have to go into the Network control panel and
> switch from EtherTalk to LocalTalk. One solution would of course
> be to spend lots of money to adapt the printer to the Ethernet,
> but this is out of the question. Isn't there something simple
> that can be done?

If your localtalk network is small (<8) then LocalPath works OK and can allow
everyone on the Ethernet via your machine (with one ethernet card - if you
want). If you have more than 8 on the localtalk network you would need a
router (in software) or a hardware solution (reviewed in MacUser a few months
back). The localtalk network I'm connected to has more than 8 but fortunately
most of the time less than 8 are turned on. Occasionally I can't get
LocalPath turned on. David Bourne

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 16:28:47 -0600 (MDT)
From: Shannon V Spires <[e-mail]>
Subject: LocalTalk and Ethernet simultaneously (A)

> >I seem to be missing something. How does one use a local printer
> >attached to
> >the printer port (a LaserWriter IIg and IIsi) while still having Ethernet
> >available for file sharing etc? Right now it seems that you have to...
>
>
> Farallon has PowerPath software that runs in the background and allows you
> to remain on ethernet and print to your LaserWriter (any ver).  Also, other
> people on the ethernet will be able to print to it!  PowerPath does have a
> limit of one printer.  A larger version of the same product called LocalPath
> will allow up to eight LocalTalk devices (printers).  PowerPath is around
> $75. and LocalPath is around $150.

Sonic Systems also sells similar products, and they invented them before
Farallon did. Their products are called LaserBridge (for multiple
printers), PowerBridge (for a single Powerbook or printer), and
SuperBridge (for multiple Powerbooks/Printers). We use SuperBridge
extensively, and it works great. SuperBridge is about $175 from Mac
Warehouse. Farallon is a very good company, so I suspect their products
for this purpose are fine, but we bought the Sonic Systems stuff
because it hit the market first. Sonic Systems also has TCP/IP versions
of their products so you can have your Powerbook speaking TCP/IP over
its Localtalk port, if you wish.

To just attach a printer, however, you wouldn't need TCP/IP. Better yet,
since you have a Laserwriter IIg, why not just attach it directly to
the Ethernet? The IIg has an ethernet port built-in.

Shannon Spires
[e-mail]
(I have no connection with any of the companies mentioned.)

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Apr 93 16:06:20 EDT
From: [e-mail] (Eric W. Davies)
Subject: looking for project ideas... what would you like to see implemented?

Resent-To: info-mac@sumex-aim
Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 15:23:40 PDT
Resent-From: Backup Moderator <[e-mail]>

Okay, here's the background:  I'm a computer science graduate student
looking for a fun summer project that's academic enough that it will
count as course work toward my degree.  I have a strong preference that
it involve the Mac and networking, but since the Mac is a "toy" and
AppleTalk is "non-standard" ;-) I believe my faculty advisor has a
strong preference that my plans include Suns and TCP/IP as they are
"serious" and "standard".  'nuff said.

I'd like to find a project involving both platforms and one of the two
protocols (I know how to compromise).  An additional restriction is that
I'd like to work on something involving serial communication over dial-up
lines.  I know SLIP already exists and I have no desire to duplicate the
efforts of others.  I have considered implementing AppleTalk (or a subset)
on the UNIX side, but wondered whether I might be getting myself in over
my head (true?  not true?  ideas anyone?).  Another idea was to implement
an original protocol between the two that would enable Mac-like representation
and manipulation of objects on the UNIX side (i.e. UNIX file systems would
appear as disk icons on the Mac desktop, etc.).  Anyone know if this has
already been done?

What I'd like from you is any input or suggestions you might have about the
above-mentioned projects or other ideas you'd like to see someone implement.
Also, if you have experience trying to implement anything like what I've
talked about, please let me know how it went.  Thanks.  If you prefer,
mail me directly and I'll summarize for the net.

Eric Davies
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 28 Apr 1993 13:51:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: BRYAN SMITH <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacPassword program?

where can I find a copy of MacPassword or
similar security program.

Bryan Smith
Colgate University
internet: [e-mail]
bitnet:   bsmith@colgateu



------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 21:59:51 BST
From: The GELF <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacSurf 3

I've been asked if I can find out anything about the MacSurf 3 package, (3D
surface modelling) and it was suggested that I ask this forum - I am not on
the
list.

I would like to know if MacSurf 3 is suitable for boat design, what hardware
would be required to run it properly, and how much this hardware might cost.

I understand that the package costs around 6K for the full version.

It would also be useful to know of any alternative packages on other
platforms,
and any information on these.

Thanks.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 14:44:22 +1000
From: [e-mail] (Colin McLaughlin)
Subject: Mac Week E mail address

Does anyone no of the E mail address (or later snail mail address) for
MacWeek. I have been trying unsucessfully to subscribe for 6 months.

The snail mail address I used was

Customer Services Department
c/- JCI, PO Box 1766
RIVERTON NJ -08077-7366

Colin McLaughlin
University of Western Sydney
Booloobidja Aboriginal Education Centre
61 2 772 9415 PHONE     [phone] FAX
[e-mail]
Internet 137.154.97.11

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 10:53:37 +0200
From: Vecoven Frederic <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mathematica

Hello,

Does anyone know the format of the files that Mathematica creates ?
I have to enter lots of data,and I'd like to create myself directly
a notebook for Mathematica...

Thanks.
Frederic Vecoven   ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 26 Apr 93 18:59:36 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Craig M. Conway)
Subject: mcvert-20

 >Hi.  I'm relatively new at downloading and am having problems with
 >mcvert.  I put it in its own directory but I can't seem to get
 >sh mcvert-20.shar
 >to work.  I've tried downloading as ascii and as binary and neither

Downloading it as ascii should work fine, since there are only ascii
characters in the file.

 >seems to work.  I'd appreciate any advice you have.
 >Thanks for your time.
 >Craig Conway

Craig, perhaps you haven't removed the header in the file. most shar
files will have some stuff at the top of the file, before the actual
shar data begins. Look for a line that says: #!/bin/sh  and remove
everthing before the line, then try again.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 13:07:12 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Bill Cummins)
Subject: notecards, me too

>I take each paragraph in my document and I number it... I
>could click and drag the numbers around to suit my needs and then have it
>export the text file in the new order.

Word can mostly accomplish this through the outline mode: you'll have to
apply an outline style to the entire document. Drag a paragraph to wherever
you wish.  If you re-define the heading 1..n styles, you can achieve a
reasonable document formatting as well.  The renumber command will number
and nest-number paragraphs in a whole variety of formats.  The drawback is
that you have to manually renumber the paragraphs (apple-f15) to get them
numbered in the correct order.

Bill Cummins ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 28 Apr 1993 17:48:46 +1200
From: "matt n." <[e-mail]>
Subject: notecards again

[e-mail] writes: --- quote follows ---
I take each paragraph in my document and I number it. I then print
my document, no paragraphs spanning multiple pages, and then cut
them into separate paragraphs (your note cards). I take these
slivers of text and start sorting and arranging and ultimately
organize them into a flow that suits my task. THEN, I use the
paragraph numbers on the paper to organize the paragraphs in my
document. Lastly, I remove the marker numbers. --- end of quote ---

Nisus could automate this task of numbering paragraphs, printing
them on separate pages, and later removing the numbers. But what you
describe is what an outliner does best. Have you tried More? It
doesn't take up much real estate because you can (say) label each
paragraph, see *just* the labels on the screen, and move them about
by dragging. But, hey presto, you've also moved the associated
paragraphs, so your task is done! Just a thought...
 --------
matt neuburg, phd = [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 09:05:13 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Now Compress

Dr. Peter T. Boag asked about NowCompress:

PTB> I was about to order Aladdin's stuffit deluxe with Spacesaver when
PTB> I saw the ad for this product. I have been impressed with Now's
PTB> past software offerings and was wondering if anyone has anything
PTB> to report on their entry into the data compression utility field.

I have been using SpaceSaver for several months and recently became
a beta tester for NowCompress.  Since the product is still in beta,
there isn't much I am able to say about it.  However, I think it is
safe to say that I am sufficiently impressed (even with the beta)
that once Now Compress goes production, I will change from SpaceSaver
to NowCompress.  (This is coming from a *big* Aladdin fan!)

Sorry to sound so cryptic. Maybe once everything becomes "public" I
can elaborate a bit more.  I would suggest that Dr. Boag wait until
NowCompress is released, if he possibly can.

Jeffrey Fritz
[e-mail]
West Virginia University

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 APR 93 18:31 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: OzTeX and PostScript (Q)

Hi everybody,

Maybe this is a great FAQ but I really need to know:

Does OzTeX print ONLY on PostScript printers or is there any way to
print on my Personal LW LS?

If not is there any SHAREWARE PostScript simulator?
Thanks in advance,
                        Federico Giacanelli


[e-mail]
[e-mail]



------------------------------

Date: 28 Apr 1993 20:05:54 -0500 (EST)
From: ROBERT_BROCKMAN <[e-mail]>
Subject: Performa 450 vs. LCIII (summary)

I'd first like to thank those who responded to my question about the
Performa 450:

   [e-mail] (P.K.Guinnessy)
   [e-mail] (Aric Friesen)
   [e-mail] (Adam C. Engst)
   [e-mail] (Bryan Walls)


The gist of what I learned is that I should either:
   (a) spend a few extra bucks and get the "real thing" just to be safe,
      or
   (b) spend fewer bucks and get the "real thing" through my school at the
       academic pricing.

Some pointed out that the Performa monitor isn't the same as the Apple Color
monitor which uses a Trinitron tube, but instead uses a Magnavox tube. I'm no
purist... the Performa Plus monitor looked pretty good to me. But that's a
moot
point, since what I'm probably going to do is:
   (c) spend some bucks and buy a nice grey-scale portrait monitor, since all
       I seem to do lately is try to get my little book report done so I can
       get my doctorate (kiddy psychology) and get out. Um, text-based work,
       that is.


Thanks again to all who replied.

Robert Brockman, aka [e-mail]  or  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 15:48:15 +0200
From: [e-mail] (NAME)
Subject: Power Book MIDI problems

Sent to wrong address:

 ---------------------------Original message----------------------------
I am using a Powerbook 145 with Master Tracks Pro sequencer. I have
tried everything to get it to work and have only been able
to play files not record them. I have heard later this is a problem,
but nobody has had a solution. Someone on the PowerBook list
said there was a file somewhere to fix that but had no FTP
address. Anybody know? Thanks.
Bert Deivert
Univ. of Karlstad, Sweden
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 19:23:42 GMT
From: Frank Price <[e-mail]>
Subject: Print to LaserWriter from SPARC

We have a faculty member with a SPARCstation IPC connected to LocalTalk
via a SBus 230 LocalTalk Interface Card, running IPT's (Information
Presentation Technologies) uShare v.3.04. She is printing to LaserWriter
Plus.
    Errors are generated on PS files produced, e.g., by "dvips" filter
and by exporting figures from "xfig".
    The errors which occur are 1)printer put into permanent "waiting"
state, and 2)interface card generates "ltalk_send: latput error". (And,
of course, the document isn't printed.)
    PS files produced by uShare's "pso" filter for text files print fine.
    Can you give us any help? Reply to me and I'll summarize if
appropriate.

Thanks,

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 13:35:59 CDT
From: Michael Conwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Programming Languages

I am interested in programming on the Macintosh.  My question is
which compilers are best?  Some one told me MPW is too expensive and
Think C is not C++ but object C (whatever that is).  Can someone
tell me about the different compilers, (ie Think, Zortec, MPW) both
with C, C++, Pascal, and Assembler???

Sincerely Confused,

Mike
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1993 23:36:04 -0400
From: [e-mail] (S.E. Williams)
Subject: Prograph

     I'd like to hear peoples' opinion on the prograph programming
     environment.  I need to do some programming, and need advice
     on which environment to use.  I am experienced in C and C++,
     and would also like opinions on think c and other programming
     applications as well.

     Thanks for any help.  (e-mail, please)

     Sean-E

     [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 11:14:57 SET
From: Ronen Mir <[e-mail]>
Subject: Prometheus 14.4/14.4 Ultima Home Office (Q)

About the Prometheus 14.1/14.4 Ultima Home Office:
This fax/modem/voice is advertised at $379.
Does anyone have any experience with it?
What does it do to get the title "home office" (let's not refer to
"Ultima" yet...)

How does it compare with the Supra?
Does Supra intend to release a fax/modem with voice mail soon?

Are there any other fax/modem/voice products that compete within
this price range?

Please reply to [e-mail] and I will summarize.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 12:30:08 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Brian V. Hughes)
Subject: Quadra 700 and ethernet card (A)

-- "James A. Connolly" <[e-mail]> writes --

>My network administrator needs to know the "address" of the Quadra's
>ethernet card.  I am apparently looking for a very long (perhaps 12
>digit) hexadecimal number.

>Where is the "address" that I am looking for?  Help!

    What you need to do is open the MacTCP control panel, hold down the
option key and click on the Ethernet Icon. The Ethernet number will
appear below the icon.

-Hades

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 10:03:38 -0800
From: Irv Wiswall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Room Scheduler (Q)

I am looking for a software package that can schedule things like meeting
and conferences in several hundred rooms spread over about 30 buildings.  I
need something that can insure no scheduling conflicts and optionally help
find appropriate rooms (find me a room that holds 30 people and has a
projection screen).  It also needs to create 2 kinds of reports or be able
to smoothly export data to something that can create them:  A confirmation
report sent to person who requested the room and a weekly building report
that shows all scheduled uses by building.

I'm looking into scheduling functions in WordPerfect Office and Meeting
Maker, although I haven't actually tried either yet.  If anyone has
experience with solving this problem, I would like to hear what you did.
Also would like to hear if you have another suggestion other than these two
packages.

Irv Wiswall  [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 14:16:18 -0800
From: Josh Berman <[e-mail]>
Subject: SAM Virus Defs. Problem (Q)

I recently downloaded the new SAM Virus Definitions file from the newsgroup
comp.binaries.mac.  Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work.  When I replace
my old Virus Defs file, SAM Intercept will launch fine, but SAM Virus
Clinic hangs.  Has anyone else had this problem?  (I'm running a IIsi,
7.0.1 tuned, 5Mb/5Mb Virtual, 80Mb HD).

Thanks!!

Josh Berman     [e-mail]   [phone] x4264
           Platt Campus Center; HMC        Claremont, CA  91711

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 06:56:47 EDT
From: Allan Hunter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Society for the Prevention of Microsoft

In response to that person who wanted to see some justification for the
little tag sig that someone uses in which a healthy expression of irri-
tation with Microsoft is expressed--

(sorry about the lack of specifics there; I'm no longer where my Info-
Mac issue is).

No, I'm not gonna list each application and rant about its foibles; I'd
rather make some generalizations--

* In light of the usual MS tendencies, I'm surprised to find that there
  are still Edit menus in MS programs, rather than Edit being a buried
  submenu inside of File, and that the Command-key equivalents are
  not set to Command-Shift-C for Cut, Command-Shift-P for Paste and
  Command-Shift-X for Xerox (which means copy).

* Got a favorite shareware or freeware INIT or Cdev that does truly
  elegant things to your interface?  What was the first thing you tried
  to test its compatibility with your programs?  Anyone care to nominate
  another major software corporation less likely to make their protocols
  work according to industry standards?

* Speaking of industry standards, the best way to set some of them is
  to be a gargantuan corporation capable of confidently launching some
  innovative software without having to worry that buyers will worry
  will not be supported in the future.  Microsoft is responsible for an
  entire PLATFORM, remember?  Good old MS-DOS.  Not to mention a decent
  handful of programs that run on that environment (not to be confused
  with "a handful of decent programs", mind you...).  OK:  think of the
  last time you handed your PeeCee-using friend an MS-DOS formatted
  disk onto which you had confidently saved an untranslated Mac document
  with the assumption that she or he had MS programs that would translate
  the Mac program for them?

* Speaking once again of industry standards, remember back to the early
  Mac days of mid-80's and how the operating manual was the thing that
  you finally pulled out of the shrink-wrap after weeks of using the
  simple user-friendly programs that were around at the time just so
  you could find out about some neat stuff that those programs would do
  in addition to the millions of immediately obvious things.  Who broke
  ranks and introduced a certain piece of Mac software than, although
  powerful and crammed with an enormous array of functions, was clunky
  and non-transparent and user-hostile as all get-out?  Remember the
  new and awkward feeling of "Huh?" the first time you chose "Styles"?

* And then there is the Help menu.  If these people worked in the Library
  of Congress, imagine what the Subject card catalog would look like
  over at Main Street Public!

* But you can always call the nice friendly support staff at Microsoft,
  right?  Hello?  Yes, I know that machine is out of production now...
  Other vendors' stuff in my System Folder?  Well, yes, but...

- Allan Hunter
 <ahunter@sbccvm>

------------------------------

Date: 28 Apr 1993 13:51:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Brian R. Cook, [phone], Hilton 530" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Stuffit Lite vs. Compactor Pro -- FAQ?

Stuffit Lite vs. Compactor Pro - which to buy?

I'm sure this has been a subject of debate before.  Can someone either supply
me the advantages/disadvantage of Stuffit Lite and Compactor Pro or where I
can get the information?  Is one really superior to the other? or is it a
toss
up?

*  Brian Cook  |  [e-mail]  |  507-284-4807  |   Rochester, MN        *

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 09:50:26 MET DST
From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
Subject: System error 15 - again

When you read through I-M digest 88, you'll notice my message about the
cure uf the problem - giving more memory to the Finder. However, I think
I was a bit too early in stating that it has been solved - the other day
I had other errors, so I finally decided to trash the WHOLE system folder,
backed up all other files on a removable disk and re-formatted the HD with
Apple's HD SC setup.

It was not too difficult to do, and everything worked fine until HD SC
setup tried to mount the HD - it just would not mount. So I took the
removable drive as startup device, and when I restarted, the finder asked
if I'd like to initalize the Portable's HD, since it "is not a Macintosh
disk". I confirmed, and then it appeared on the desktop - not with the
nice icon it had before but looking like a standard external HD, but to me
this is not at all important.

I bought the Portable second-hand when the first powerbooks came out (and
when a normal citizen like me could not afford one). I don't know what
Formatter was used for the drive; but apparently not Apple's. The drive
icon looked like a Mac Portable, and I know it was NOT pasted into the
GetInfo-window.

Then I reinstalled again System 7.0.1, and took the apps/docs back from
the removable to the internal HD. Seemed to work fine yesterday night; I
spent about 4 hours or so with it. Several restarts, putting HD to sleep
manually (with the "Battery" DA) or letting sleep automatically and having
it wake-up again: no error 15 or other error message so far.

Only reinstalling the System software (over the old) did not help in my
case; also "erase disk" from the finder and copying back again did not
solve the problem. Only a real re-formatting helped. Did you experience
the same, or am I the only victim here? And what could I have done wrong
that screwed up the system or the drive in such a way?

I'm glad it was obviously not a hardware error, because I really love the
Portable, although it's a bit heavy to carry around.


------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 03:50:33 GMT
From: Peter Adams <[e-mail]>
Subject: The Trincoll Journal- A Macintosh Electronic Publication

                          Announcing the Trincoll
Journal

The Trincoll Journal is a FREE weekly publication for Macintosh users.
The Journal
is a student run publication at Trinity College in Hartford Connecticut.
All design, programming, contributions and Artwork are done by people
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Join our growing staff of people from around the Internet.  For more
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Send us
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------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 9:33 BST
From: Richard Lim <[e-mail]>
Subject: TrueType INIT (C)

RTFM, page 140: "TrueType fonts do not work with system software 6.0.4 or
earlier".

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 29 Apr 93 0:50:37 PDT
From: Brian R. Gaeke <[e-mail]>
Subject: What kind of machine is Sumex-Aim?

I am curious--What kind of machine is SUMEX-AIM.stanford.edu?
I gather it's some sort of UNIX box?

--
Brian Gaeke, The Dimensional Gate Company   Internet E-Mail: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 03:38:47 EDT
From: [e-mail] (2d Lt Avram Dorfman)
Subject: Where to fine more Quicktime movies? (Q)

Are there any places to get Quicktime movies besides here at info-mac, and
at apple?

I'm interested to know of any ftp sites that have a stock of qt that is
different from info-mac.

-Avram Dorfman ([e-mail])

p.s. It just wouldn't be right for me to let all of this new harddisk space
     be empty!!

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 20:34:07 -0400
From: Jay Becker <[e-mail]>
Subject: Why not a Performa?

If anyone has any good reasons why I shouldn't recommend a Performa 450 to
friends who have no computer literacy and are primarily interested in playing
games, light word processing and perhaps a spreadsheet, I would appreciate
hearing them.
Thanks!
Jay Becker
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 15:58:06 -0700 (MST)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: you NEED 32bit addressing for over 8Megs

A while ago I posted that the math in the "About this Macintosh..." dialog
didn't work out (about 2 megs of RAM were "missing")

I got many different replies, mostly reciting memory
fragmentation and some suggesting 32bit addressing should be turned on.

I didn't think I needed 32bit addressing unless I tried to acess over 12megs
of RAM, but apparently you need it if you are trying to use over 8megs.
As soon as I turned on 32bit addressing, my missing 2 megs came back.
Thanks to all who replied and for those of you having similar troubles
or if you are running out of memory quicker than you think you should or
if virtual memory is starting up sooner than you think it should, try
turning 32bit addressin on.

        Aric Friesen

{

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 93 20:06:43 +0200
From: [e-mail]

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest
Path: elmed15
From: [e-mail] (MrTin)
Subject: Re: Virtual Memory--When to use
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Sender: [e-mail]
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 18:06:36 GMT
Lines: 22

[e-mail] writes:

>Hello All,
>       I was wondering if virtual memory use is a good idea even if you don't
>need the extra memory.  For example, I have 9mb of ram on my mac which is
>sufficient for my needs.  I have heard that it is a good idea to turn on
>virtual
>memory, therefore doubling my present memory, as a way to make memory
>management
>more efficient.  Is this true?

My opinion in this matter is:
NEVER use virtual memory! It is so damned slow! Quit a program instead.
IF you just HAVE to use virtual memory, consider a memoryupgrade.
IF you thinks that's too expensive, use virtual memory only when you HAVE to,
and then throw it all out.

>Steve Liu
>[e-mail]
>[e-mail]

and..  [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 15:32:00 PDT
From: backmod (Info-Mac Moderator )

Subject: [*] sam-definitions.hqx
Resent-To: info-mac@sumex-aim
Resent-Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 15:32:00 PDT
Resent-From: Backup Moderator <[e-mail]>
Message-Id: <[e-mail]>
Apparently-To: info-mac@sumex-aim

               Subject:                               Time:7:35 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          Latest SAM Definitions                 Date:4/27/93
Enclosed are the SAM definitions to catch the latest two viruses: INIT 17 and
INIT-M.

[Archived as /info-mac/virus/sam-definitions.hqx; 46K]

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